Hornsby Shire Council
Attachment to Report No. WK75/09
Community Centre, Greenway Park.
am Wednesday 2 September 2009
Chair Councillor Bruce Mills (BM)
Mayor Nick Burman
Max Woodward EM
Bob Stephens EM
EM Planning (EMP)
Manager TRS (LN)
A/Manager Parks and Landscapes
A/Snr Traffic Engineer
BM - Purpose of
meeting is to gain an understanding of existing traffic and parking problems,
agree on possible solutions and future directions and where possible seek
co-operative approach between Mirvac and Council.
RB - Need to also confirm future plans for
Village Shopping Centre Car Park
JB - Current status
of car park works improvements include changes to entry priority, new wombat
crossings, removal of angle parking to create bus parking area, 3P restrictions
provided and NRT at aisles near entry. Traffic consultant being retained to
JB - Proposed car
park works monitor effectiveness of improvements and may further consider
changes to angle parking along main frontage. Time frame for evaluation is 3 to
JB - Merits of
reducing number of parking spaces if necessary to reduce queuing in Shepherds
Drive to be considered as a last resort if current improvements are not
behaviour within car park makes determining solutions difficult therefore any
changes should be trialled and evaluated before being permanently adopted.
application would not be necessary to trial relatively minor changes to car
parking as long as T&RS Branch concurs with individual proposals.
Vehicle Entry to Cherrybrook Village Shopping Centre
(Note: The Mayor arrived at the beginning of
discussion of this item)
BM - Merits of 2nd
entry alternative entry proposals need to take into account future expansion
EME Open space in
Greenway Park is required to service the high demand for recreation/sport
facilities in the locality. Outlined preference that a range of options for a 2nd
entry should be developed and evaluated. These solutions should address private
and public land holdings to enable the community to make an informed decision.
LN - Details of
intersection counts provided to meeting unclear how many vehicles would
relocate to second entry if provided. More detailed investigation required.
MH Suggested entry
and exit could be separated to improve traffic flow within car park and on
SE A small
redistribution in traffic to a new entry will result in big improvements at
RB Operation of
Macquarie Drive and Kenburn Avenue need to be considered as part of second
JB - Commitment from
Mirvac for 2nd vehicle entry not possible at this stage no
immediate plans to expand shopping centre or provide 2nd Entry and
none likely in foreseeable future due to current economic climate. Mirvac will
continue to improve existing car park and access where possible.
BM - Progression of
Planning Proposal is an issue for Mirvac but Council will assist where
possible by providing input into developing proposals.
LN - Results of
number plate survey indicates overflow car park has sufficient capacity to cater
for all day parking currently occurring on street.
AC Recent changes
to parking management within car park has resulted in employees relocating on
site and off road - all can be accommodated on shopping village site.
EME So far Council
has not restricted commuter parking from occurring within Greenway Park overflow
car park. However if it is to be encouraged the Plan of Management looks like
it will need to be amended. This will take about 6 months due to the
requirement for public consultation and public hearings. Due to sporting demand
commuter parking must be limited to business hours, Monday to Friday and be
restricted only to the lower overflow car park.
JB - Centre can
assist in promoting commuter car park and bus services.
SE Bus company may
need to consider relocating stops.
BM Bus stop
outside Doctors surgery could be located to fire station and shelter provided to
attract patronage in that area. Footpaving from Caltex to pedestrian refuge (in 2009/10
Footpath Improvement Program) will improve pedestrian access.
Police have requested Council upgrade lighting in overflow car park if it is
used by commuters (currently unfunded).
(Note: The Mayor left at the completion of
discussion of this item)
6.1 - Stakeholder
group to meet again in February or March 2010 to review progress and any
developments that may have occurred.
6.2 Stakeholders acknowledge
Mirvacs efforts in improving car park efficiency to date and encourage more
parking management trials, especially over Christmas period.
requested to share results of monitoring shopping centre car park improvements or
any changes made with Council prior to next meeting.
6.4 Mirvac offered
to assist with promoting bus services and parking management with customers in
partnership with Council. Possible website promotions.
6.5 While Mirvac
has no short or medium term proposals to develop second entry or acquire part
of Greenway Park, if this eventuates Council to assist with evaluation of any
Planning Proposal subject to other second entry options having been considered
and that any facilities lost within the park as a result of the proposal are
6.6 - Council to verify footpaving between Caltex
Service Station and pedestrian refuge near fire station is in current program
(Note: EMW advises that this work is
6.7 Council to report
on formalising commuter parking in the lower overflow car park, off Shepherds
of a bus shelter outside the fire station.
of lighting in the over flow car park.
7. OTHER BUSINESS
RB requested Mirvac
also consider providing a direct pedestrian access between the second deck and
the shops to encourage more use of this area in any future development.
Meeting closed at